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I caught a Warrant
show the night before this interview took place and, let me tell you,
they put on one hell of an amazing show. No matter what kind of label
you might wanna stick them with, the truth is that Warrant's a damn
good rock 'n' roll band. Their material holds up rather well...in
fact, it has a whole new life when you hear it in a live setting.
They had a lot of energy and if it was at all possible, I think they
would've played until the sun came up. They connected with the audience,
especially Jani Lane, who made it as personal as he possibly could.
There wasn't a single person who could've walked away from that show
disappointed. The day after this show took place, I recieved a phone
call from Erik Turner and he had a nice little conversation about
the band and what you are about to read is the end result of that
conversation. So, check it out because this is where the down boys
go!
Paul Autry:
Well, since your out on tour, I guess I should start off by asking
how everything's going. I mean, hell, you're playing with Judas Priest
in a few days. I guess you're looking forward to that, huh?
Erik Turner: That's exactly what we're looking forward to. We're actually
doing three shows with them. That's gonna be great. I mean, we don't
really know those guys. But, we wanna get to know them because they're
one of our favorite bands. It's gonna be cool to meet The Ripper.
Also, we're huge fans of Halford and I don't know if you heard any
of his solo stuff, but, we're really big fans of his too. The last
two records that he's done were just awesome. He's doing his thing
and it's kind of like old school Priest. We're touring now with L.A.
Guns, Firehouse, Ratt and Dokken. Last night though, it was just us
and Dokken. I don't know what happened to Firehouse.
Paul Autry: I was told they had to fly in and I guess they couldn't
make it on time or something like that.
Erik Turner: I'm sure they'll come back and do it right for everybody.
But, it's nice to tour with these guys, it's great. But, to get another
band like Judas Priest on the bill. It gives it more of an edge. We're
fans and we wanna hear it. Someone else to get to know and to drink
a lot of beer with and do some shots.
Paul Autry: Now, in Warrant history, you formed the band in 1984.
What were you doing before then and what led to the decision to form
Warrant?
Erik Turner: Well, you know, we were all playing in bands, local friend
bands. For Warrant to come about, it was just one of those things.
It was me and Jerry, we wanted to go to the next level, especially
with everything that was happening on the strip with the bands. In
L.A., there was a great scene. You had your stuff like Poison, Ratt,
Motley Crue...the natural thing was to put all these other guys, who
you saw in other bands that weren't happening, and try to put a band
together. This one just happened to click and it took us a long time
to get signed. But, once we got signed, it was what it was. We've
arrived. We went from there. I mean, I played in a few bands before,
but, none you probably have heard of.
Paul Autry: Hot Wheels?
Erik Turner: Yeah...back in the day. It was just one of those things
and this is what stuck. This is my band now, the one that I've been
in for seventeen years.
Paul Autry: Now, I was doing a little reading and Warrant had more
line up changes than I actually realized. Now, do you feel that changes
the chemistry in a band, especially one that's as well known as Warrant.
If it does, is it better or worse?
Erik Turner: Well, of course, when you bring other guys into the band,
obviously, we can't do this without Lane. Warrant wouldn't be Warrant
without Jani Lane. It just can't. But, Joey leaving the band and having
Rick come in, that was great. Rick was great. He was a whole different
entity kind of guy, playing guitar. When he left and K.K. came in,
for a minute, he was cool, he was a different vibe. He left and Billy
came in and he's a whole different vibe. Obviously, in that situation,
it's one of these things were...the band is evolving. We do all the
hits, but, it's a little more re-arranged. It's not exactly note for
note from the record. We try to represent it as best we can. Some
of the new songs that Lane has written has a more modern feel and
groove. Lane's a big fan of the Lit guys and that's where he's trying
to move this music. The natural progression, you know. It's not like
we're gonna put record scratches in or loops or stuff like that. That
would be something we're not, like a Korn or a Limp Biscut.
Paul Autry: I was waiting for those two names to come up.
Erik Turner: Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're great bands. But, if we were
to do something like that it just wouldn't be us. I saw a picture
of System Of A Down in a local rag from around here and they were
in suits and stuff and they were like a greasy, dirty rock band. Now
they're all in suits. I mean, that's the ultimate fom of selling out.
Like Metallica when they sold out and cut their hair and started wearing
suits and being all fashionable. That was their progression of growing
and trying to be modern. But, that was just a sell out. For Warrant
to do loops or scratches, that wouldn't be us, you know?
Paul Autry: Like Motley Crue's "Generation Swine," which I like. But,
to me, that's just not a true Motley Crue record.
Erik Turner: Exactly. So, you can swing a few different guys in and
out of the band. We've had quite a few drummers and now Mike's doing
a great job. He's in there and he's accepted by the fans and he bring
a lot to the table too. It's just evolution, you know. We're evolving
and we're trying to hold this together in order to take the next step.
Hopefully, we're gonna be in the studio this fall to record the new
record, if we don't get an offer to tour. What happens is, we go out
for three months and then we take a month off, take a break and we
get a great offer to go out and tour again. So, it's hard for us to
get in the studio for three months to make a record. But, Lane's got
a solo record coming out here shortly. That's something he wanted
to do.
Paul Autry: Will this be a rock record? I mean, I remember reading
that he had a country music fixation there for awhile.
Erik Turner: No, this is more like heavy pop rock. It's not country.
It's actually pretty good. We heard some of it the other night, he
was playing it on the bus, it's really good. It's good for him because
he gets to get that out of his system, you know what I mean? Once
that goes out, he'll do some dates around the country, maybe he'll
go over to Europe and Japan for a minute. He'll do his thing and then
he'll do Warrant. Who knows, we might even play a few of those tunes.
It's hard for us when we're playing. Sometimes when we get 45 minutes
to an hour, it's hard to get new material in and out of the show because
everyone wants to hear the old stuff.
Paul Autry: How did this whole tour come about?
Erik Turner: Well, it was one of those things where we had talked
about doing a tour with Ratt, we talked about doing a tour with Dokken.
We've done one off's with Firehouse and we toured with L.A. Guns.
We could either do a club tour or we could try to put this together.
Our manager ran the idea across a few different sponsors and Metal
Edge jumped right on it and they thought it would be a great thing
for them to do. It would help everybody because it would help get
some of the older bands into that magazine, which does cover the new
bands now as well. They do the Drowning Pool, Korn and all that stuff.
So, they jumped on it and said they wanted to be a part of it. They
did some press and some promotion and they got it rolling. Hammered
it out in a few months and here we are, out on tour.
Paul Autry: Now you played a club last night and a lot of people that
I talk with have this mentality that if a national band has to play
a club, they're not what they used to be. But, personally, I think
that's what rock 'n' roll needs to get back to. I mean, you, as a
band, can get more personal with an audience of a few hundred people
as opposed to being in front of 20,000 people. What are your thoughts
on that?
Erik Turner: I like playing the clubs myself. It is a good way to
get up close and personal with the fans. But, playing in front of
20,000 people is great too because, last year when we were on the
Poison tour, so many people came up and said, wow, we didn't know
you were still around or whatever. So, we got to hit a larger market
of people. The reality of rock 'n' roll today and what's happening
right now is that we have to play wherever they want us to play. If
it's a fair, a club, an arena...a few years ago, we played a fraternity
house. We will play anywhere. We can't say, oh, we're not gonna play
here or we're not gonna play there. If someone wants us and if our
rider's met and we have everything we need, we'll play anywhere. The
next step for us...bands like Skynyrd, the ones that are doing the
fairs, they're starting to die out and now they're trying to bring
our bands up into that scene, the Poison's, the Ratt's and the Warrant's...and
that's a great thing because you play to a lot of people, it's a great
gig and the fair has the money to pay. There's a lot of people who
are still into the rock!
Paul Autry: Has Warrant been able to shed that "hair band" tag that
you got stuck with?
Erik Turner: It's one of those things that the label and the local
radio with the "Hour Of hair power" show keep going. Back in the day,
every band had the big, silly hair. As far as the label, I think the
songs...when someone comes to a Warrant show and they hear these songs...like
"I Saw, Red," "Heaven," "Down Boys," "Cherry Pie," whatever...they're
gonna be like, wow, I didn't know they did that one and when we sneak
a new one in there, something from one of the later records, like
"Indian Giver," people dig it because it rocks and it's catchy. So,
I don't know, as far as being labeled, call us what you want. Call
us the hairless band. The hair band that doesn't have long hair anymore
or whatever. Whatever you can tag it with and keep people talking,
it doesn't really matter. We were what we were. Silly outfits, big
hair. But, we've evolved and I think we've come into our own.
Paul Autry: Yeah...besides, when you take away the silly outfits and
the big hair, what it boils down to is that it's just really good
rock 'n' roll music.
Erik Turner: EXACTLY!
Paul Autry: Are you on the road now or are you still at the hotel?
Erik Turner: I'm still at the hotel. I'm on the computer, but, I've
got my cell phone.
Paul Autry: Do you ever think that, some day, I'm not gonna be able
to make music anymore.
Erik Turner: Well, I hope to be playing for a long time. Look at bands
like Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones, huge bands that are touring
in jets and everything is comfortable and stuff like that. The thing
about it is, I love playing music and I love playing in this band
and, as long as we can do this thing, we're gonna do it. I don't think
there's a time limit, like five or ten years. As long as we can still
get gigs and do shows, we'll pull it together and make it happen.
When that's done, I think I'm just gonna play golf. Maybe I'll try
to get on a touring tournament.
Paul Autry: With Alice Cooper!
Erik Turner: Oh, yeah. He's a good golfer. That would be great to
do. I'll do that and raise my family and stuff like that. We're out
here now and today's today. All we're thinking about is making it
through this tour, rock 'n' roll, meeting fans, keeping everybody
happy and letting everyone know that rock 'n' roll is still alive.
Paul Autry: Is there any misconception about the band...you know,
people think a certain thing and in reality, it's a whole other story.
Anything like that that you'd wanna set the record straight on?
Erik Turner: Going back to that hair band thing and the, as Lane says,
the pussy ballads, that's all stuff that we did. But, I think the
band has a lot more to offer, especially with the new music. A good
song is a good song and we're out here trying to write good songs
and we're trying to give it 110% every night and put on a good rock
show. I don't know, people are always gonna say good things about
you and they're always gonna say bad things about you. I'd rather
have someone say something good or bad and not be lukewarm about us.
Either you love the band or hate the band. We came from where we came
from and we're heading where we're heading and we're doing this because
we love doing it.
Paul Autry: What's Down Boy Records, for the people who aren't familiar
with it.
Erik Turner: Down Boy Records is our label that we put "Under The
Influence" out on. The reason we put that out is because we wanted
to put a couple of new tunes out and we wanted to do some of our favorite
bands from when we were growing up and do a cover record. Those are
some of the covers we do and it was just something we could have out
on the Poison tour. So, we put this little label together. We did
this on our own. Maybe we'll do a home video, we're thinking about
it. Maybe that'll come out on Down Boy Records.
Paul Autry: Have you considered doing a DVD, something which Dokken
has done recently. Speaking of which, have you seen "Live From The
Sun?"
Erik Turner: Haven't seen it yet. Had a very in depth conversation
with Don about it though and we're gonna see it when we get a minute
and yes, it's something that we're considering doing. I heard Don's
was cool cause there's a lot of different things going on on it.
Paul Autry: Yeah, it's more like a movie, which is what Don said.
It's not just your typical concert video.
Erik Turner: I think that's what you have to have for the fans. People
wanna see something like that and we've talked about it. Now, if it's
gonna be as cool or as in depth as Dokken's, I don't know. If I have
something to do with it...well, I'm gonna have something to do with
it (laughs). I think it would be cool to have some different shots
of us like, hanging out at the golf course or getting ready for a
show, fan interaction. I can't wait to see Don's, especially after
the way he described it.
Paul Autry: What are your thoughts on the whole free music online
thing?
Erik Turner: Well, if there's a Napster or not, people are still doing
the bootleg thing and trading, there's that whole underground thing
that you can't really control anyway. It's all going around and with
the amount of fans that we have now, they pretty much have everything.
As for new bands, I'd say that there's money being lost. But, really,
if someone wants something bad enough, they're gonna get it. Either
they'll pay for it or they won't pay for it.
Paul Autry: A friend of mine gave me an old demo where you guys were
doing "The Time Warp" from The Rocky Horror Picture Show and, to be
honest, the quality of it isn't all that great. My friend mentioned
that if he could buy something like this from the band, just to have
a good quality copy of it, he would. Do you think bands would benefit
from putting stuff out like this? I mean, hell, I could go to a record
store right now and pick up every one of your albums. But, there's
still stuff out there that I won't have. Plus, I think that would
help bring the bootleg circle down a bit because if I could get a
good quality demo from you for a price, why would I pay that same
amount of money to get a bad quality copy from some guy with that
tape on his list.
Erik Turner: That's another great idea for another Down Boys Records
release, putting all that stuff out. But, who's to say that, even
if you got a good CD from us, with artwork and all that, that someone
wouldn't burn one for their friend, ya know. It's that whole thing
about somebody getting what they want. I'm a fan of that stuff too.
There's some stuff out there that I wouldn't mind getting.
Paul Autry: Looking back on your career, what are some of the moments
that make it all worth while?
Erik Turner: Well, most recently, last year, doing the tour with Poison.
That was great because we got to get out in front of a lot of people,
sometimes seventeen, eighteen thousand people, that didn't know we
were still around. Everything that came out of coming out of the 80's,
coming out and actually making a stink and being a band that sold
millions of records, that was great. We were one of the lucky ones
and that's why we're here today. Being out here and being able to
tour, we appreciate where we are now and, you know, it's not easy
out here. But, we try to stay positive and work hard. It's all worth
it.
Paul Autry: Final comments?
Erik Turner: I'd just like to thank the fans for all their support
and for continuing to come out and see us and keeping rock alive...and
seeing all the other bands that roll through your town as well. We
have a lot of the same fans as Dokken, Firehouse and Ratt, so, keep
supporting that so we can keep this alive!
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